Tamiya TRF417
#5927
Tech Adept
awesome, mine's in the mail. should work well with my FX chassis i hope. let us know how you find it and any setup changes you made because of it.
#5928
With the Sepes conversion a little bit more expensive than the Smokem conversion, it's a close call on which one delivers more 'Bang for the buck'.
Still strange that the 418 conversion is mentioned as I doubt that the original car is already tested by Sepes Racing Products.
Maybe Chris can comment on this?
#5930
Tech Champion
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The conversion is looking good and I like how the capturing of the layshaft bearings is kept as original. With the Smokem conversion you need get the whole bulkhead off to get the layshaft out. For even more flex you can use the Sepes conversion with the Kentech Worlds Mod, which gives an extra tuning option
#5933
Tech Master
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I am intrigued to see how the smokem chassis does. I just got done with a weekend at a new track in SD with a V5 and the kentech mod and was alright... I will have the smokem before the next round and will be able to throw it on the car before.
What setup changes are people typically doing when switching over to the raceberry chassis?
What setup changes are people typically doing when switching over to the raceberry chassis?
#5935
How is this different than the Smokem conversion? With the Kentech mod you only remove the screws of the layshaft. The Sepes conversion has the single post attached to the top deck just like the Smokem. So if you use the Sepes conversion (motormount and top deck) with the Kentech mod you get the same configuration.
#5936
Tech Champion
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How is this different than the Smokem conversion? With the Kentech mod you only remove the screws of the layshaft. The Sepes conversion has the single post attached to the top deck just like the Smokem. So if you use the Sepes conversion (motormount and top deck) with the Kentech mod you get the same configuration.
Smokem conversion has only 1 top deck screw in the motor mount at the front which moves the flex point forward, but also lets the top deck to flex freely above and behind the layshaft like yokomo/raceberry
Sepes conversion (like 417) can't do that configuration easily, either it will be just like kentechs mod with the flex completely in the center or it will be like a standard 417 with the rear end very stiff
The best of all worlds is the 418, it has a captured layshaft so you can run it like the yoke/RB but also has screw holes over the layshaft to stiffen up the rear end if the track demands that
#5937
Smokem conversion has only 1 top deck screw in the motor mount at the front which moves the flex point forward, but also lets the top deck to flex freely above and behind the layshaft like yokomo/raceberry
Sepes conversion (like 417) can't do that configuration easily, either it will be just like kentechs mod with the flex completely in the center or it will be like a standard 417 with the rear end very stiff
Sepes conversion (like 417) can't do that configuration easily, either it will be just like kentechs mod with the flex completely in the center or it will be like a standard 417 with the rear end very stiff
This is the stock Sepes configuration where you can see the single post:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
This is the Smokem conversion which is the same configuration only with kentech mod build into the design:
http://www.redrc.net/2013/08/smokem-...v7-conversion/
Just sharing the right information as I think both conversions can work great with the 417 chassis.
#5938
Tech Master
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Right now I am running the V5 with the Kentech mod for giving the car more flex and like it a lot more as it suits my driving style more. and quite a bit different of a set-up as I have been running a lot at outdoor asphalt tracks.
#5939
Tech Master
If the descriptions for the kit share any similarities with other text its nowt to do with me, but as has been mentioned the conversions are similar (although the devil is in the detail with racing) so that explains why the wording is similar.
The cool thing is that there is a seasoned racer who is also a product designer and he is making a range of new parts for the cars we race contributing to our hobby, you are welcome to help contribute as well
I am looking forward to seeing what the conversion is like on the track, I am a fan of all these new parts, keeps it interesting seeing the Raceberry, Smokem etc but its always good to have more people throwing their ideas into the mix.
Last edited by Qatmix; 09-11-2013 at 01:40 PM.
#5940
Tech Elite
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Just for your information, I did the interview with Chris and posted the answers, if it has similarities with other text its nowt to do with me but the conversions are similar (although the devil is in the detail with racing) so that explains why the wording is similar. I just posted what I was sent. I was just helping raise the profile of a new guy building and contributing to our racing scene, and I am looking forward to seeing what the conversion is like on the track.