Smart? I'm not sure about that..

MRT owners had an option, spend the 35 or so dollars and get a NEW RC4 PT, which puts their total investment at about the same cost as buying a new RC4 PT out right (MRT cost + 35 bucks = new mylaps cost..give or take)

Most tracks sell amb/Mylaps, not many carry MRT's, and now none of them will that have upgraded. Mylaps is no longer making the hybrids, soon the only option for a new Mylaps PT will be the RC4. Which, like it or not, people are going to buy.

What is this "smart" track owner going to tell the guy who walks in with 3 cars, all running the RC4?

"Sorry buddy, I didn't think it was fair to ask my MRT guys to spend the 35 bucks and have the same amount invested as you." Will he be honest and follow that with.."I'm sorry you have $345 worth of PT's that don't work at my track but I was too cheap to spend the 330 bucks to upgrade. But if you want I'll sell you 3 new MRT's for $225"

obviously the numbers aren't exact but you get the point. IMO, NOT getting the upgrade was the complete opposite of "smart"

FYI, the Mylaps upgrade deal is done so what would have cost a track owner $330 will now cost about 3 grand!

**I'm not saying I like paying $115 for a PT or the fact that Mylaps has no REAL competition in the market. I'm saying the upgrade was the cheapest and most painless option for the racers.

You cannot pick a custom number nor do they pick them out of thin air. The MRT uses existing AMB/MyLap numbers.

And you just admitted there can be a conflict of numbers!

You can program any number you want by using the button on the transponder.

I think you're making my point for me inadvertently. The AMBs all have unique numbers. If you stay in the all AMB world you're fine.

The MRT's on the other hand could potentially be duplicates of a real number already existing on an AMB unit, since you chose it yourself (or MRT did) without knowing in advance what's already "in the wild". So when a conflict arises, The AMB can't be changed.

So, to be able to race, the MRT chooses from one of it's 20 alternate IDs. The alternate IDs are exactly the same on every MRT unit. You are now in conflict (potentially) with other MRT units. Sure, you can press a button and change it. But this tends to come up after everyone is on the track and checking in. Stopping a whole race so you can pull your car press the button and try again might be pretty quick... but it's an inconvenience to everyone involved.

This is a concrete problem with MRTs that has actually happened. Repeatedly. Rather than some hypothetical "I bet in a couple years AMB makes everyone get an RC4!!" nonsense coming up in this thread.

Don't think that's the way it works. More like any one of the 20 pre-programed 7 digit number combos. Again copied form existing AMB/MyLaps PT's.

Again cdwilliam1 beat me to it!

As others have said, you're limited to one of 20 numbers "pre-programmed" into the MRTs.

I wouldn't say "repeatedly," my guess it would be more of a rare occurrence.

As most of you know, MRT is a UK company and have tons of British customers (many before any of us on this side of the pond ever heard of MRT). I've been to races over there where literally everyone in the club used MRTs and, except for a couple of rare instances, there were no number conflicts.
I had a couple of MRTs myself (yes, before anyone says anything, I also have AMBs/MyLaps PTs) I picked up while over there, and both came pre-programmed with different numbers - along with the primary number initially assigned to each of them both being different.

This is total BS from MRT haters... MRT did not come up with there own random number.. so if you had an AMB and never sent it over to MRT you had/have your own number. MRT would clone your PT, or was buying up PT's and HTP's cloning them. The chance of you buying a PTX with the same 21st number with someone else does exist.. but I'd say its pretty rare. I've seen a few hundred of them and none had the same 21st number... and if it did happen the software would pick it up and you change it to one of the 20 other numbers... not a big deal... easier then the old crystal conflicts... and you don't have to go beg or borrow from somebody else.


The only way what you're saying could happen would be if someone had there PT cloned... then sold there AMB, and MRTs to different people.

I've read some of this thread but I don't want to go back and read 16 pages but some people seem to think that MyLaps is going to make the older AMB and RC4 Hybrids not work anymore in the future so I sent them an email and this is the answer I got.

I wanted to say on another thread, but the whole idea of AMB/Mylaps not supporting the older PT's and the house transponders on RC4 was going to make for certain suicide for Mylaps. I'm glad I went out an bought the Hybrids, I'm $200 poorer, but I should be good for a while.

I hated to do so, but my local track is sending in their decoder this week, so I ordered the rc4 trade-in/upgrade. hate to see my little black MRT go but at least I got it for $43 (after shipping) instead of $120 and having a useless MRT sitting around in a few months.

And good luck with the new software , none in denmark can see their practice times , nothing is working , and we have updated our box. We just get a "authentitation failed" message.

Are you refering to a race management software or the decoder RC4 firmware update?

Hi

We are trying to log on to the practice timing on the new mylaps homepage , www.mylaps.com . As a racer.

Has anyone been noticing a significant amount of missed laps with the new RC4 decoder? Our club ONLY used RC4 hybrid transponders and racers are frequenting one lost lap per race. Granted a lot of them are also running Savox/Spektrum as that is what the LHS sells, but this did not seem to be an issue prior to upgrading.

Why would Savox / Spektrum have an effect on the transponder?