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Old 12-19-2012 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanpatrickgore
Wrong, it is the exact opposite. The c hubs free the rear end up so it rotates and rolls better in the corners.
A and b lock it in more
ok, apparently you didnt get me. C-Hubs make the rear end rotate more, but will give more forward bite. Plus i know the track that he races at, and we all run c-hubs. A-hubs DO NOT work well at our track. What he was wanting, was when he gave the throttle out of the turn, he needs more forward bite. But lets not get on that subject all over again....i just gave him simple help on the track that he races at.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 04:07 PM
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It would be cool if the staff on this site would allow us to make a new thread for we can have the new comers be able to look at the first post and find out all of the information that keeps getting repeated because it's not on the first page.. Oh well..

While I'm here, I broke a T plate.. How? Who knows... How do they usually break?
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Old 12-19-2012 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LOSI123
All that and no reference to what the Ryans are doing with the C-hub?

c'mon man your slipping up
"oh yea the team guys are first rubbing their tires with some melted butter, filling their shocks half filled will air and oh yea rc10.com, all the setups! pick one and hold on!!"

Pretty sure the c hubs help getting on the throttle quicker on landings.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Barry
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A for outdoors, C for indoors. Simplest for our area tracks
It's been beaten like a dead horse so just come over and talk to me, or one of the other guys (Mike, Andy, Mel, Gunnar... they should all be able to explain it better)

Never used, or plan on using, B.
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Do you think SJRC has picked up enough rubber to run the C now or still with the A hubs?
gotta finish putting on Mikes set up you sent me a few weeks ago, All the family holiday stuff and side work has taken away from my wrench time. Good thing the E-buggy didn't need much work Got the AE bb springs coming in along with the VTS but still need a B44 slipper spring and time to paint a new body
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Old 12-19-2012 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 66Racer
I was just curious if the u brace mod would change anything with the front handling, rear grip is currently good but want to try it out unless it created push or something. Im still learning how to dial in the buggy but I still have a few basic things to try in the front though that's why I didn't get detailed with my setup. Luckily a lot of the AE drivers are local but don't wanna bug them till I try a few things.
Shaving the u brace is essentially taking 2 ballstud washers out of the inside rear. It will raise your roll center which should give you less rear grip from the middle to exit of the corner. Normally when you shave the u brace you go to C hubs.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer247
Got a noob questions since I can't seem to find the answer in this thread.

So I have a B4.1 Worlds car and I'm trying to understand how the aluminum rear hubs and suspension mounts work together. I understand they are all designed to adjust rear toe in my car. And it sounds like instead of just replacing the suspension mount to increase or decrease the rear toe, you can swap out the aluminum rear hubs since they are easier to get to. But I also read those aluminum rear hubs do change the way car feels since they are further out.

So I can run my 0 hubs with a 4 degree mount and have 4 degrees of rear toe, but instead if I use a 0.5 hub with a 3.5 mount again I have 4 degrees of rear toe, but the car will handle differently???

And those A, B, and C hub braces are designed to change the roll center for the car right?
Well the mounts will change the angle of the rear arm while the hubs only change the angle at the wheels.

B hubs have the holes that are in between A. C hubs have the same holes as an A hub but it's a different height. Changing the holes in these rear hub towers will change the length of your camber link after you reset camber which will change your camber gain.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kellen Guthrie
Shaving the u brace is essentially taking 2 ballstud washers out of the inside rear. It will raise your roll center which should give you less rear grip from the middle to exit of the corner. Normally when you shave the u brace you go to C hubs.
Thanks, yeah I already have the C-hubs installed, on the brace I run i have no washers and a lower profile ball stud that what the kit shipped with but learned of the shaving recently after seeing it in setup sheets and mentioned in here. Im very curious to try it out. I have so many different setup ideas I wanna try but not enough track time.....Man being a "newly wed" and ocrc literally 10mins away is a bad mix haha.

Originally Posted by 3srcracing
It would be cool if the staff on this site would allow us to make a new thread for we can have the new comers be able to look at the first post and find out all of the information that keeps getting repeated because it's not on the first page.. Oh well..

While I'm here, I broke a T plate.. How? Who knows... How do they usually break?
That can be done by the thread starter, I wish it would be maintained as well since I just got a b4.1 too and dont mean to bring up things that were talked about in the past.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 3srcracing
It would be cool if the staff on this site would allow us to make a new thread for we can have the new comers be able to look at the first post and find out all of the information that keeps getting repeated because it's not on the first page.. Oh well..

While I'm here, I broke a T plate.. How? Who knows... How do they usually break?
Bad idea. I Sure do not want to have to follow 2 of these threads. Use the search function. It is not great but oh well. If you just read the 1/4 of the entries you will capture 95% of the relevant information
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Old 12-19-2012 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 66Racer
Thanks, yeah I already have the C-hubs installed, on the brace I run i have no washers and a lower profile ball stud that what the kit shipped with but learned of the shaving recently after seeing it in setup sheets and mentioned in here. Im very curious to try it out. I have so many different setup ideas I wanna try but not enough track time.....Man being a "newly wed" and ocrc literally 10mins away is a bad mix haha.
I got a setup that Steven Hartson kills with over there, from there I am just learning to drive it. I figure if they're going to all the work why should I? And werent you thinking 7.5 a few pages ago? I know my Reedy 17.5 with some timimg is more than fast enough.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tradin Paint
Bad idea. I Sure do not want to have to follow 2 of these threads. Use the search function. It is not great but oh well. If you just read the 1/4 of the entries you will capture 95% of the relevant information
I don't have a solution, but, something needs to be done.

Reading 1/4 of the threads is not very plausible since there are over 25,000 posts
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Old 12-19-2012 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by beidle99
Bob,
Do you think SJRC has picked up enough rubber to run the C now or still with the A hubs?
gotta finish putting on Mikes set up you sent me a few weeks ago, All the family holiday stuff and side work has taken away from my wrench time. Good thing the E-buggy didn't need much work Got the AE bb springs coming in along with the VTS but still need a B44 slipper spring and time to paint a new body
The track lost some grip compared to the Turkey race. But now that it's open full time, it will likely groove up more. With that said, I would run A hubs for now. Keep in mind if you run the A hubs, you run with a NON shaved U brace OR you put 2 washers on a shaved one.

If you are running the AE bb springs that was on that setup, you probably want to go one step softer front and rear as it was more for higher bite that we had at bumps. Everything else should translate over fine though.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Barry
The track lost some grip compared to the Turkey race. But now that it's open full time, it will likely groove up more. With that said, I would run A hubs for now. Keep in mind if you run the A hubs, you run with a NON shaved U brace OR you put 2 washers on a shaved one.

If you are running the AE bb springs that was on that setup, you probably want to go one step softer front and rear as it was more for higher bite that we had at bumps. Everything else should translate over fine though.
oh and don't let the VTS slipper keep you from running. It's nice, but definitely not needed to run.

Just like always, tires are what is going to be important there. And honestly, until the track settles, no one knows which tires will work best.

My money is going to be on green V1 barcodes but you could just as easily run Ifmar Pins LOL. Give it another weekend or two and then you'll see it sort out
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Old 12-19-2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BillPear
I got a setup that Steven Hartson kills with over there, from there I am just learning to drive it. I figure if they're going to all the work why should I? And werent you thinking 7.5 a few pages ago? I know my Reedy 17.5 with some timimg is more than fast enough.
Yeah dude Hartson was tearing it up in mod on Sunday. Tough break in the main but didn't he still win the points? Spoke to his father and he was cool, told me to talk to his son next time he is at a practice. Do you mind sharing that setup? I saw his on the AE page and noticed I'm close to it already but some small things are off on mine. The one I was thinking about had 3 limiters in the front shock and I have 2, I think there was a tie rod location upon front that was different too

I think you got me mixed up with someone else on the 7.5 motor though. I have always done 17.5 and once upon a time at ocrc when they used to have a super stock 13.5 truck class I wish they did 13.5 sometimes but 17.5 is a nice motor at their track anyways.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 66Racer
Thanks, yeah I already have the C-hubs installed, on the brace I run i have no washers and a lower profile ball stud that what the kit shipped with but learned of the shaving recently after seeing it in setup sheets and mentioned in here. Im very curious to try it out. I have so many different setup ideas I wanna try but not enough track time.....Man being a "newly wed" and ocrc literally 10mins away is a bad mix haha.
I run mod quite a bit and my car is pretty good. Let me know if you ever want to meet at ocrc or something i can help you out. I live 2 blocks down from there haha.
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Old 12-19-2012 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dezertranger96
i heard that the next 2wd buggy will be new
I am not a B4.1 owner yet, but at a recent event I was informed by an AE employee that the box art was nearly completed and advised it would be wise money to wait for a few weeks for the new release instead of upgrading a B4.1 WC
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