Community
Wiki Posts
Search

RC10B4.1 FT/WC

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-18-2012 | 09:06 AM
  #22486  
Wildcat1971's Avatar
Thread Starter
Tech Prophet
iTrader: (84)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 17,389
From: Arizona
Default

is there an upper retainer from AE that will work for those of use doing the bb spring? I want to convert another car car to BB and with the new AE lowers, all I would need it an AE upper. I know the traxxas upper will work...just asking.
Wildcat1971 is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 09:08 AM
  #22487  
Tech Master
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,744
From: Lawrence, KS
Default

Originally Posted by Just1More
Assembled AE Big Bore shocks tonight with the clear Kyosho X rings(Part number ORG03X), and they sucked air past the X rings as i bled them(before even putting on the caps). The X rings are too big in the center, and the shock shafts are slightly smaller than the V2 shafts. I do not recommend trying them as wasting your money, they felt smooth but did not seal against the shaft very well at all and would suck air past them with any side loading of the shaft. I put on the AE O rings and they bled perfectly, and i could not get them to pull air past the seals no matter how hard i tried. Also i've heard good things about the losi O rings, so i use either brand(losi and AE look identical). Hope this helps someone
Losi o-rings won't work....I tried and their to big in both dimensions. AE BB shafts are 3mm while Losi shafts are 3.5mm. I don't think AE shocks build as nice as Losi shocks but their not bad either. It would help alot if they had a better fitting bushing to support the shaft though.
Lowrance is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 09:08 AM
  #22488  
07Forester's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,534
From: Yorkville, IL
Default

What's everyone running for the AE bb rates? Green fronts white rears?
07Forester is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 09:10 AM
  #22489  
Matt Trimmings's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (171)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,313
From: Tucson AZ
Default

Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
is there an upper retainer from AE that will work for those of use doing the bb spring? I want to convert another car car to BB and with the new AE lowers, all I would need it an AE upper. I know the traxxas upper will work...just asking.
Nope. Avid, Traxxas, or RPM
Matt Trimmings is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 09:18 AM
  #22490  
Just1More's Avatar
Tech Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 426
From: Bremerton, WA
Default

Originally Posted by Lowrance
Losi o-rings won't work....I tried and their to big in both dimensions. AE BB shafts are 3mm while Losi shafts are 3.5mm. I don't think AE shocks build as nice as Losi shocks but their not bad either. It would help alot if they had a better fitting bushing to support the shaft though.
I should have clarified, i'm using the old style losi O rings, they're orange.
These ones:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ck-Cartridge-8

I also bought the losi 22 shock piston and bushing set, should have tried their center bushing to see if they fit any better.. but i already built em. The AE BB's do have sloppy bushings..eh well.

Pistons i'm referring to:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ngs-Set-TLR-22

Kyosho X rings that DON'T work(too big and leak/pull air):
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...or-Oil-Shock-8
Just1More is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 09:40 AM
  #22491  
Grasschopper's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (54)
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,647
From: Central PA
Default

Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
is there an upper retainer from AE that will work for those of use doing the bb spring? I want to convert another car car to BB and with the new AE lowers, all I would need it an AE upper. I know the traxxas upper will work...just asking.
I assume you're talking about the V2 shocks and using BB springs. I ran that (just got my BBs in the mail yesterday) with the GHEA adapters.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Set-w-O-Ring-4
Grasschopper is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 09:58 AM
  #22492  
Tech Master
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,578
Default

Originally Posted by Just1More
Assembled AE Big Bore shocks tonight with the clear Kyosho X rings(Part number ORG03X), and they sucked air past the X rings as i bled them(before even putting on the caps). The X rings are too big in the center, and the shock shafts are slightly smaller than the V2 shafts. I do not recommend trying them as wasting your money, they felt smooth but did not seal against the shaft very well at all and would suck air past them with any side loading of the shaft. I put on the AE O rings and they bled perfectly, and i could not get them to pull air past the seals no matter how hard i tried. Also i've heard good things about the losi O rings, so i use either brand(losi and AE look identical). Hope this helps someone
What is the reason for swapping the o-rings? Are the stock AE o-rings that come with the kit defective?
zipperfoot is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 10:00 AM
  #22493  
ryanpatrickgore's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,025
From: TRCR
Default

32.5 front/27.5 rear. 1.6 for all
Brown/green

I believe trcr has a bunch if springs on the wall
253-565-1935
ryanpatrickgore is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 10:01 AM
  #22494  
Matt Trimmings's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (171)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,313
From: Tucson AZ
Default

Originally Posted by zipperfoot
What is the reason for swapping the o-rings? Are the stock AE o-rings that come with the kit defective?
People love to tweak....there is nothing wrong with the orings that come in he BB kit as long as you build it correctly.
Matt Trimmings is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 12:01 PM
  #22495  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 298
Default

And built incorrectly the o-rings will tend to weap oil past them. Green slime is your friend when building shocks!
Damon_English is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 12:27 PM
  #22496  
-WHEELMAN-'s Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (267)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,511
From: Redlands, California
Default

Originally Posted by Damon_English
And built incorrectly the o-rings will tend to weap oil past them. Green slime is your friend when building shocks!
The problem with the factory o-rings isn't that oil seeps past them the problem is they let air into the body creating rebound you do not want. As long as you top off and re-bleed the shocks every few runs its not an issue.
-WHEELMAN- is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 12:46 PM
  #22497  
Eli's Avatar
Eli
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,553
From: San Diego, CA.
Default

Originally Posted by Lowrance
Losi o-rings won't work....I tried and their to big in both dimensions. AE BB shafts are 3mm while Losi shafts are 3.5mm. I don't think AE shocks build as nice as Losi shocks but their not bad either. It would help alot if they had a better fitting bushing to support the shaft though.
The TLR shocks are the worst, i took kyosho internals to get them a lot better, but still think the ae BB are 10x better in the stock configuration. And just wait until factory-one comes out with their internal pieces for the AE big bores

[QUOTE=Just1More;11339882]I also bought the losi 22 shock piston and bushing set, should have tried their center bushing to see if they fit any better.. but i already built em. The AE BB's do have sloppy bushings..eh well.

Dont waiste your time with the tlr bushings, for one they are over sized for their 3.5mm shafts so dont see hoe they can help our shocks.
Eli is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 01:38 PM
  #22498  
ilanstylz's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (142)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,615
From: SOCAL
Default

Those running a 13.5 motor what gearing are you running stock blinky mode as well as what gearing with boost/turbo added (bonus if anyone is running a tekin setup what settings are you running on your esc), thanks in advance.......
ilanstylz is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 01:54 PM
  #22499  
Wildcat1971's Avatar
Thread Starter
Tech Prophet
iTrader: (84)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 17,389
From: Arizona
Default

Originally Posted by ilanstylz
Those running a 13.5 motor what gearing are you running stock blinky mode as well as what gearing with boost/turbo added (bonus if anyone is running a tekin setup what settings are you running on your esc), thanks in advance.......
I am running 30/72 blinky with my BH Ian. I run at 125 deg on the motor and 95 deg on the esc.
Wildcat1971 is offline  
Old 10-18-2012 | 01:59 PM
  #22500  
OptimumRC's Avatar
Tech Adept
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 222
Default

Originally Posted by zipperfoot
What is the reason for swapping the o-rings? Are the stock AE o-rings that come with the kit defective?
I think an incorrect presendence was started with the V2's and running the X-rings and then peopel just automatically assume that they will be better on the new AE BB's without even considering that the new shafts are thinner and the O-rings are squeezed differently.

The stock O-rings do just fine, and these shocks perform even better with O-rings that have been in the car for atlest a weeks worth of running to give the O-rings a chance to swell.
OptimumRC is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.