RC10B4.1 FT/WC
08-08-2012 | 10:43 PM
The VTS slipper is an improvement over stock, it definitely improves slipper adjustment resolution. What is really nice about it is that since it has such large diameter pads and a substantial increase in pad surface area, a lot less spring tension is needed for the same holding power. More spring tension = more heat, so by reducing spring tension there is less heat build up...which means a lesser change in "stiction" of the pads. therefore your slipper adjustments are more consistent!
08-08-2012 | 10:47 PM
I agree that the slop makes it maddeningly difficult to "true up" the camber, toe, etc. I agree that when you start racing competitively, you start taking things like that more seriously. And I agree that taking good care of your car results in longer life, more consistent performance, and less expense (if you factor out the amount of time all that upkeep costs you, time that could be spent on other pursuits - like shorting Facebook stock, for instance).
BUT, let's not forget these are TOY CARS. Not "toy-grade", mind you... but toys nonetheless. Every time I think about dual-stage pistons and 27.5 weight oil, a little voice goes off inside my head, saying, "what the @#&!?"
I love messing around with stupid stuff too, like big bore springs and different hub carriers and shims and diff settings and ESC tuning... but let's not forget, it's supposed to be for the sake of tinkering around, not some pursuit of holy technical perfection.
Now, if you actually make $80k a year off your RC driving, none of that applies to you. Good job. Keep it up.
08-08-2012 | 10:54 PM
I can live with a little slop here and there, and realisticly many of us are driving on dirt, precission is not critical, but what i cant get over is how much slop the mounted wheels and tires have. Makes it almost impossible to accurately adjust camber, which is very important. I can tell when one of my wheels is a half degree off. It does affect handling. Am i the only one?
08-08-2012 | 11:09 PM
The point is, I got into the hobby for the diversion, and to learn a new skill, and absorb a whole new world of technical and mechanical knowledge...
But I've *stayed* with it because of the conversations I've had with people who don't have an RC car, showing them this big, deep, really cool world of RC - and talking them into picking up the hobby as well... I've got to tell you, it's a great feeling to nudge someone into buying a car or truck or whatever, and share the fun.
That, and the great, smart, funny people I've met, like J Bone for instance, who will shake your hand, freely pass on their extensive knowledge, kick down spare parts without a thought... and won't hesitate to run over your daughter if she's standing in the middle of the track.
Sorry, buddy... I still laugh about it.
And she's finally taking a shine to that cane she has to walk around with, now.
But I've *stayed* with it because of the conversations I've had with people who don't have an RC car, showing them this big, deep, really cool world of RC - and talking them into picking up the hobby as well... I've got to tell you, it's a great feeling to nudge someone into buying a car or truck or whatever, and share the fun.
That, and the great, smart, funny people I've met, like J Bone for instance, who will shake your hand, freely pass on their extensive knowledge, kick down spare parts without a thought... and won't hesitate to run over your daughter if she's standing in the middle of the track.
Sorry, buddy... I still laugh about it.
And she's finally taking a shine to that cane she has to walk around with, now.
08-08-2012 | 11:40 PM
wow the last few pages have been a bit entertaining,
Not sure what all the fuss is about. As was stated, their toy cars. Yet I can understand the pursuit of perfection and a love of tinkering.
I agree that the slop is a bit much, but a little slop in offroad isn't a bad thing. In onroad, I can see it being a big headache. Just for fun I shimmed just about all of the slop I had out and what I ended up with was a very twitchy buggy that didn't like any changes in the track surface. For me, it made the buggy inconsistant feeling on the rough parts of the track, where it was smooth, it was great. Then again I'm no "Pro" either.
I did put the VTS slipper on and am very happy with it so far. Need a little bit more time with it to get the feel I want just right, but it works. One of the better options I have put on the buggy. Now if I could only get my grubby meat hooks on some BB's. Then I think it'd be almost perfect.
I hear that they might have some for sale at the nats. Nothing confirmed, but was a little something I had heard recently. Hopefully they'll be out real soon. Well, they'll be back ordered real soon.
Not sure what all the fuss is about. As was stated, their toy cars. Yet I can understand the pursuit of perfection and a love of tinkering.
I agree that the slop is a bit much, but a little slop in offroad isn't a bad thing. In onroad, I can see it being a big headache. Just for fun I shimmed just about all of the slop I had out and what I ended up with was a very twitchy buggy that didn't like any changes in the track surface. For me, it made the buggy inconsistant feeling on the rough parts of the track, where it was smooth, it was great. Then again I'm no "Pro" either.
I did put the VTS slipper on and am very happy with it so far. Need a little bit more time with it to get the feel I want just right, but it works. One of the better options I have put on the buggy. Now if I could only get my grubby meat hooks on some BB's. Then I think it'd be almost perfect.
I hear that they might have some for sale at the nats. Nothing confirmed, but was a little something I had heard recently. Hopefully they'll be out real soon. Well, they'll be back ordered real soon.
08-09-2012 | 04:45 AM
The point is, I got into the hobby for the diversion, and to learn a new skill, and absorb a whole new world of technical and mechanical knowledge...
But I've *stayed* with it because of the conversations I've had with people who don't have an RC car, showing them this big, deep, really cool world of RC - and talking them into picking up the hobby as well... I've got to tell you, it's a great feeling to nudge someone into buying a car or truck or whatever, and share the fun.
That, and the great, smart, funny people I've met, like J Bone for instance, who will shake your hand, freely pass on their extensive knowledge, kick down spare parts without a thought... and won't hesitate to run over your daughter if she's standing in the middle of the track.
Sorry, buddy... I still laugh about it.
And she's finally taking a shine to that cane she has to walk around with, now.
But I've *stayed* with it because of the conversations I've had with people who don't have an RC car, showing them this big, deep, really cool world of RC - and talking them into picking up the hobby as well... I've got to tell you, it's a great feeling to nudge someone into buying a car or truck or whatever, and share the fun.
That, and the great, smart, funny people I've met, like J Bone for instance, who will shake your hand, freely pass on their extensive knowledge, kick down spare parts without a thought... and won't hesitate to run over your daughter if she's standing in the middle of the track.
Sorry, buddy... I still laugh about it.
And she's finally taking a shine to that cane she has to walk around with, now.
08-09-2012 | 05:00 AM
The point is, I got into the hobby for the diversion, and to learn a new skill, and absorb a whole new world of technical and mechanical knowledge...
But I've *stayed* with it because of the conversations I've had with people who don't have an RC car, showing them this big, deep, really cool world of RC - and talking them into picking up the hobby as well... I've got to tell you, it's a great feeling to nudge someone into buying a car or truck or whatever, and share the fun.
That, and the great, smart, funny people I've met, like J Bone for instance, who will shake your hand, freely pass on their extensive knowledge, kick down spare parts without a thought... and won't hesitate to run over your daughter if she's standing in the middle of the track.
Sorry, buddy... I still laugh about it.
And she's finally taking a shine to that cane she has to walk around with, now.
But I've *stayed* with it because of the conversations I've had with people who don't have an RC car, showing them this big, deep, really cool world of RC - and talking them into picking up the hobby as well... I've got to tell you, it's a great feeling to nudge someone into buying a car or truck or whatever, and share the fun.
That, and the great, smart, funny people I've met, like J Bone for instance, who will shake your hand, freely pass on their extensive knowledge, kick down spare parts without a thought... and won't hesitate to run over your daughter if she's standing in the middle of the track.
Sorry, buddy... I still laugh about it.
And she's finally taking a shine to that cane she has to walk around with, now.
08-09-2012 | 05:19 AM
I'm not saying plastic arms are "no good", heck for the average mortal, you probably won't even see a difference. However, the point is that compliance takes away precision out of the car (it's the opposite of stiffness). Essentially, by softening the arms your are softening your suspension, but this only applies to fast or high impact conditions since the arms are orders of magnitude stiffer than your shocks.
In real motorsports it would be equivalent to running standard rubber suspension bushing instead of stiffer polyurethane bushings. It takes away feel and reduces response.
In real motorsports it would be equivalent to running standard rubber suspension bushing instead of stiffer polyurethane bushings. It takes away feel and reduces response.
You run your Aluminum a arms since they are stiffer. Good luck with that! And yes, this mere mortal does notice a difference. I will try things just to see the differences on how it drives. So I get actual experience instead of what I read.
08-09-2012 | 05:25 AM
reminds me of someone else's daughter running down the middle of the strait. 
I atleast hit the brakes 2 seconds before impact to lessen the blow.
08-09-2012 | 05:56 AM
what do you all think of Avids new slipper for the b4....worth it, how much will it be beneficial?
http://www.avidrc.com/product/n/latest-items/
http://www.avidrc.com/product/n/latest-items/