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Old 01-24-2012 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmuck69
Nice looking piece. I got them on the way for the B4.1 and SC10. Ordered and received a shipping confirmation in 15min...FAST!
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Old 01-24-2012 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jamr1130
Nice looking piece. I got them on the way for the B4.1 and SC10. Ordered and received a shipping confirmation in 15min...FAST!
damn, i just bought it too, lol. free shipping too, wow.

Edit: mine took 24 mins, WTH???!!! j/k

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Old 01-24-2012 | 01:51 PM
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Anyone have a decent pic of the FT rear ballast installed? It looks like it just fits in there without anything to hold it in place? AE's info is pretty vague...
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Old 01-24-2012 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Anyone have a decent pic of the FT rear ballast installed? It looks like it just fits in there without anything to hold it in place? AE's info is pretty vague...
It does, but I put a small piece of servo tape on it just incase.
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Old 01-24-2012 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Anyone have a decent pic of the FT rear ballast installed? It looks like it just fits in there without anything to hold it in place? AE's info is pretty vague...
Just follow AE instructions, it stays captive between the transmission and the toe block. If you are concerned about it rattling, you can always add a small piece of double side tape. I've never heard mine vibrate.
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Old 01-24-2012 | 01:56 PM
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hmmm, never needed tape in there to hold it in place.. i never thought about it though, i haven't had a problem with it installed as per the manufacturer
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Old 01-24-2012 | 02:12 PM
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Thanx for the replies... i didnt buy the AE part, just looking at it I couldnt see how it was held in place other than captive/tape and the info on the website was vague. Im also still using original hingepin mounts and rear suspension plate... so didnt know if it was 'keyed' or something for the newer parts.

Im gonna make my own out of solder (very similar to how i used to make them for the B2/B3 front bulkhead). After looking at the AE part and its only 17 grams i can definitely hit that with solder.
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Old 01-24-2012 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshCorti11
yes you can still you use the inner whole I like to use one ballstud washer after you do the ubrace mod. I noticed with these my car doesn't really fishtale as much down the straits if it is loose. Really a great way to get the edge
I can't say I am familiar with the u-brace mod. I just wasn't sure if I would still use the same position as if it wasn't even there.
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Old 01-24-2012 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Thanx for the replies... i didnt buy the AE part, just looking at it I couldnt see how it was held in place other than captive/tape and the info on the website was vague. Im also still using original hingepin mounts and rear suspension plate... so didnt know if it was 'keyed' or something for the newer parts.

Im gonna make my own out of solder (very similar to how i used to make them for the B2/B3 front bulkhead). After looking at the AE part and its only 17 grams i can definitely hit that with solder.
Seems like melted lead fishing weights or solder would work just fine. My ballast weight is a large shaved down fishing weight. It actually weighs 20 grams instead of 17.
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Old 01-24-2012 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jirish617
I can't say I am familiar with the u-brace mod. I just wasn't sure if I would still use the same position as if it wasn't even there.
I was told that if you're going to use the CF parts on the hubs that you need to shave the U-Brace to get the desired effect. All you do is shave down the bump that your ballstud currently screws into to make it flush with the rest of the U-Brace.

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Old 01-24-2012 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jirish617
I can't say I am familiar with the u-brace mod. I just wasn't sure if I would still use the same position as if it wasn't even there.
Read below.
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If I am understanding how he is wording it
He is cutting the upper two parts of this brace #9564 where the Ball cup studs go in, to lower the camber link
Upper corners if that brace in the pic
Not cutting but shaving down flat to match the rest of the brace. Lowers the link about 2.1mm


I did this on my SC10 and it is working well. It really works well if you have FT rear blue hubs and the Carbon fiber hub towers. which lower it 2mm at the hubs
Originally Posted by Chris Mac
If you buy the optional ASC9873 hub tower, there is an instructional sheet included with it. It recommends using either zero washers with the standard silver ball stud, or to achieve an even higher roll center, shaving off the added material where the ball studs thread in. As mentioned, when the car first came out, the U brace was flat all the way across. Associated later added the .060" of material so the ball stud could thread into more material, and still achieve the two washers on the inside of the camber link effect.

The optional towers lower the roll center 2mm on the hub, and you don't HAVE to shave down the U brace when using these towers, I have seen/tried using the towers with a new standard U brace that has that added material. It just gives you the opportunity to really fine-tune and get a feel for your setup, my favorite part of racing!!

Hope this helps.
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Old 01-24-2012 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler Keel
I was told that if you're going to use the CF parts on the hubs that you need to shave the U-Brace to get the desired effect. All you do is shave down the bump that your ballstud currently screws into to make it flush with the rest of the U-Brace.

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yeah Tyler is spot on. The reason you do this is because you are lowering the outter link by .060. So in order to keep the same roll center, you lower the inner link by the same amount.

If you have a set of C towers (the carbon fiber one) and a set of A, you can hold them both up sandwiched together so that the bottom mounting holes match up. Then look through the ball stud holes and you will see that they are lower than the A.
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Old 01-24-2012 | 03:49 PM
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Bob did you get a chance to run the spring comparison back to back. Just curious.

Guys I need a quick refresher. When running the two hole c hubs I lower the bump steer a shim compared to the three hole correct?
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Old 01-24-2012 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bds81175
Seems like melted lead fishing weights or solder would work just fine. My ballast weight is a large shaved down fishing weight. It actually weighs 20 grams instead of 17.
Oh man good idea i didnt even think of that... would be quicker to do it like that too. I dont have to make a mold for the solder to fill now.

Used to use a B2/B3 front bulkhead and fill it with cut solder and heated it till it was slam full. Then cut the bulkhead off after the solder cooled, clean up the weight with a dremel and use motor spray to clean off any residual flux. Then you could just drop the weight in a new bulkhead or take it out whenever you wanted. It was close to 2oz... lol
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Old 01-24-2012 | 04:16 PM
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Can someone explain why you guys are gluing your servo savers? And what the advantage of getting the avid steering rack?
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