just getting started
01-22-2012 | 04:55 AM
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From: brainerd MN
just getting started
greetings to you all. im new of course. im trying to get started in short course racing. just bought a team associated sc10. its not the brushless system but i figured its a good starter system with plenty of support. i have looked up ROAR rules for short course and know of a few tracks around my area of central Minnesota. any racers have any tips to get started? equipment tips? anything would be greatly appreciated. thank you for your time
01-22-2012 | 09:37 AM
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Awesome.
First rule of any racing is getting correct tires, or at least close enough to make it drivable. Can only be determined by the guys actually at that track. Ask around, start with the race director & on site or local shops, they should know what works. If possible determine correct compound & foam insert, perhaps slightly more challenging, but less important for starting out. All part of just making new friends, should be a big part of the track experience IMO.
Don’t start out with too much power, sounds like you’re headed that way already, good. Smooth and consistent lines through the corners beats wild and crazy down the straight every time. Both in lap times and making new friends.
Suggest just hanging out at the track for at least a portion of a race day if possible. See the heat flow, how marshalling goes and such. Get in some practice, on an off day if possible. Understand transponders, either get a personal (PT), or learn about the house transponders and how they mount (and if they have them, they are becoming dinosaurs).
When driving, the single biggest mistake and commotion newbies tend to make is blasting into corners too fast and taking people out. The biggest difference in better drivers is braking into the corners, less experienced guys tend to try to follow but don’t slow down as well and then smack the fast guy that just passed them. Trying to follow a fast guys line is a good thing, just be aware and back off enough going into the corner. It’s better for your lap times anyway!
Getting passed by faster guys can be an issue. Opinions vary, but generally you’ll tend to have tunnel vision starting out. So don’t worry about it, just focus on keeping your car smooth and straight. If the hotshots are half as good as they think they are they will get around you no problem. As you get better work on developing awareness of fast guys coming up behind, learn when to go slightly wide in a corner to let them by without loosing much time yourself. Similarly looking ahead to avoid crashes and the latest newbies. (it all goes full circle)
Be a considerate marshal. Get out there on time after your heat, put the food and phone down, watch your section not the race on the other side. Be aware of oncoming traffic, don’t jump out in front of traffic or place a marshaled car right in front of same. No fair asking why I know!
Oh, and one rule that is more important than correct tires. HAVE FUN, don’t get discouraged, it’s a challenge, but a fun one. Don’t get too mad when you get wacked, quick apology when you do it to someone, it happens.
Good luck!
First rule of any racing is getting correct tires, or at least close enough to make it drivable. Can only be determined by the guys actually at that track. Ask around, start with the race director & on site or local shops, they should know what works. If possible determine correct compound & foam insert, perhaps slightly more challenging, but less important for starting out. All part of just making new friends, should be a big part of the track experience IMO.
Don’t start out with too much power, sounds like you’re headed that way already, good. Smooth and consistent lines through the corners beats wild and crazy down the straight every time. Both in lap times and making new friends.
Suggest just hanging out at the track for at least a portion of a race day if possible. See the heat flow, how marshalling goes and such. Get in some practice, on an off day if possible. Understand transponders, either get a personal (PT), or learn about the house transponders and how they mount (and if they have them, they are becoming dinosaurs).
When driving, the single biggest mistake and commotion newbies tend to make is blasting into corners too fast and taking people out. The biggest difference in better drivers is braking into the corners, less experienced guys tend to try to follow but don’t slow down as well and then smack the fast guy that just passed them. Trying to follow a fast guys line is a good thing, just be aware and back off enough going into the corner. It’s better for your lap times anyway!
Getting passed by faster guys can be an issue. Opinions vary, but generally you’ll tend to have tunnel vision starting out. So don’t worry about it, just focus on keeping your car smooth and straight. If the hotshots are half as good as they think they are they will get around you no problem. As you get better work on developing awareness of fast guys coming up behind, learn when to go slightly wide in a corner to let them by without loosing much time yourself. Similarly looking ahead to avoid crashes and the latest newbies. (it all goes full circle)
Be a considerate marshal. Get out there on time after your heat, put the food and phone down, watch your section not the race on the other side. Be aware of oncoming traffic, don’t jump out in front of traffic or place a marshaled car right in front of same. No fair asking why I know!
Oh, and one rule that is more important than correct tires. HAVE FUN, don’t get discouraged, it’s a challenge, but a fun one. Don’t get too mad when you get wacked, quick apology when you do it to someone, it happens.
Good luck!
01-23-2012 | 08:54 AM
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From everything I've seen in my return, it is nearly impossible to put together a simple "for x condition, use y tire" chart. The main problem is every track's dirt is a little different...there is no dirt-r-us.com that tracks use. The best advice, echoed from above, is to head to the track and ask around. Especially at a local level, racers are almost universally friendly and helpful. If you find a track that is not that way, find another track. Your first time out (while you're asking about tires), don't worry so much about your tires...just try to keep your vehicle off its roof as much as possible.
Matt
01-24-2012 | 06:33 AM
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Awesome.
First rule of any racing is getting correct tires, or at least close enough to make it drivable. Can only be determined by the guys actually at that track. Ask around, start with the race director & on site or local shops, they should know what works. If possible determine correct compound & foam insert, perhaps slightly more challenging, but less important for starting out. All part of just making new friends, should be a big part of the track experience IMO.
Don’t start out with too much power, sounds like you’re headed that way already, good. Smooth and consistent lines through the corners beats wild and crazy down the straight every time. Both in lap times and making new friends.
Suggest just hanging out at the track for at least a portion of a race day if possible. See the heat flow, how marshalling goes and such. Get in some practice, on an off day if possible. Understand transponders, either get a personal (PT), or learn about the house transponders and how they mount (and if they have them, they are becoming dinosaurs).
When driving, the single biggest mistake and commotion newbies tend to make is blasting into corners too fast and taking people out. The biggest difference in better drivers is braking into the corners, less experienced guys tend to try to follow but don’t slow down as well and then smack the fast guy that just passed them. Trying to follow a fast guys line is a good thing, just be aware and back off enough going into the corner. It’s better for your lap times anyway!
Getting passed by faster guys can be an issue. Opinions vary, but generally you’ll tend to have tunnel vision starting out. So don’t worry about it, just focus on keeping your car smooth and straight. If the hotshots are half as good as they think they are they will get around you no problem. As you get better work on developing awareness of fast guys coming up behind, learn when to go slightly wide in a corner to let them by without loosing much time yourself. Similarly looking ahead to avoid crashes and the latest newbies. (it all goes full circle)
Be a considerate marshal. Get out there on time after your heat, put the food and phone down, watch your section not the race on the other side. Be aware of oncoming traffic, don’t jump out in front of traffic or place a marshaled car right in front of same. No fair asking why I know!
Oh, and one rule that is more important than correct tires. HAVE FUN, don’t get discouraged, it’s a challenge, but a fun one. Don’t get too mad when you get wacked, quick apology when you do it to someone, it happens.
Good luck!
First rule of any racing is getting correct tires, or at least close enough to make it drivable. Can only be determined by the guys actually at that track. Ask around, start with the race director & on site or local shops, they should know what works. If possible determine correct compound & foam insert, perhaps slightly more challenging, but less important for starting out. All part of just making new friends, should be a big part of the track experience IMO.
Don’t start out with too much power, sounds like you’re headed that way already, good. Smooth and consistent lines through the corners beats wild and crazy down the straight every time. Both in lap times and making new friends.
Suggest just hanging out at the track for at least a portion of a race day if possible. See the heat flow, how marshalling goes and such. Get in some practice, on an off day if possible. Understand transponders, either get a personal (PT), or learn about the house transponders and how they mount (and if they have them, they are becoming dinosaurs).
When driving, the single biggest mistake and commotion newbies tend to make is blasting into corners too fast and taking people out. The biggest difference in better drivers is braking into the corners, less experienced guys tend to try to follow but don’t slow down as well and then smack the fast guy that just passed them. Trying to follow a fast guys line is a good thing, just be aware and back off enough going into the corner. It’s better for your lap times anyway!
Getting passed by faster guys can be an issue. Opinions vary, but generally you’ll tend to have tunnel vision starting out. So don’t worry about it, just focus on keeping your car smooth and straight. If the hotshots are half as good as they think they are they will get around you no problem. As you get better work on developing awareness of fast guys coming up behind, learn when to go slightly wide in a corner to let them by without loosing much time yourself. Similarly looking ahead to avoid crashes and the latest newbies. (it all goes full circle)
Be a considerate marshal. Get out there on time after your heat, put the food and phone down, watch your section not the race on the other side. Be aware of oncoming traffic, don’t jump out in front of traffic or place a marshaled car right in front of same. No fair asking why I know!
Oh, and one rule that is more important than correct tires. HAVE FUN, don’t get discouraged, it’s a challenge, but a fun one. Don’t get too mad when you get wacked, quick apology when you do it to someone, it happens.
Good luck!
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