Team Orion Engines
#1292
I had to look out of curiosity. that stuff is obscure.
Horizon lists the following:
ORN81511 Cylinder and Piston Set, 7-Port Off-Road: CRF 21
ORN81828 Alpha 21 - Piston/Liner Set w/Pin 3 Port, Off-Road
ORN81886 Alpha 24 - Piston/Liner Set w/Pin, 5 Port Off-Road
ORN82147 CRF Alpha 21 - Piston/Liner Set 7 Port,Off-Road
ORN82148 CRF Alpha 21 - Piston/Liner Set 3 Port Off-Road
Horizon lists the following:
ORN81511 Cylinder and Piston Set, 7-Port Off-Road: CRF 21
ORN81828 Alpha 21 - Piston/Liner Set w/Pin 3 Port, Off-Road
ORN81886 Alpha 24 - Piston/Liner Set w/Pin, 5 Port Off-Road
ORN82147 CRF Alpha 21 - Piston/Liner Set 7 Port,Off-Road
ORN82148 CRF Alpha 21 - Piston/Liner Set 3 Port Off-Road
#1293
Tech Initiate
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 31
Need a little help.
I've had an alpha .24 and now have a 2013 pipe. I've been running it on the oval and we run about 3 min races. I was pretty sure I had it tuned just right. I've been thru about 3 gal including break in.
The problem came when i converted it back to buggy and ran my first off road last night with it. I made it thru 5 min heats no problem just a tad rich thru the night.
All of the sudden about 8 minutes into the main it started stalling and just terribly rich. Pit guy leaned it a little and it got better for a lap but then back rich again. Leaned a little more and got better and finished the race but so down on power.
Is this a common thing? I've never heard of anything Like that. I didn't get a chance to temp it after coming in so I don't know what its temping now. It was in the the 267 range before.
I've had an alpha .24 and now have a 2013 pipe. I've been running it on the oval and we run about 3 min races. I was pretty sure I had it tuned just right. I've been thru about 3 gal including break in.
The problem came when i converted it back to buggy and ran my first off road last night with it. I made it thru 5 min heats no problem just a tad rich thru the night.
All of the sudden about 8 minutes into the main it started stalling and just terribly rich. Pit guy leaned it a little and it got better for a lap but then back rich again. Leaned a little more and got better and finished the race but so down on power.
Is this a common thing? I've never heard of anything Like that. I didn't get a chance to temp it after coming in so I don't know what its temping now. It was in the the 267 range before.
#1294
Need a little help.
I've had an alpha .24 and now have a 2013 pipe. I've been running it on the oval and we run about 3 min races. I was pretty sure I had it tuned just right. I've been thru about 3 gal including break in.
The problem came when i converted it back to buggy and ran my first off road last night with it. I made it thru 5 min heats no problem just a tad rich thru the night.
All of the sudden about 8 minutes into the main it started stalling and just terribly rich. Pit guy leaned it a little and it got better for a lap but then back rich again. Leaned a little more and got better and finished the race but so down on power.
Is this a common thing? I've never heard of anything Like that. I didn't get a chance to temp it after coming in so I don't know what its temping now. It was in the the 267 range before.
I've had an alpha .24 and now have a 2013 pipe. I've been running it on the oval and we run about 3 min races. I was pretty sure I had it tuned just right. I've been thru about 3 gal including break in.
The problem came when i converted it back to buggy and ran my first off road last night with it. I made it thru 5 min heats no problem just a tad rich thru the night.
All of the sudden about 8 minutes into the main it started stalling and just terribly rich. Pit guy leaned it a little and it got better for a lap but then back rich again. Leaned a little more and got better and finished the race but so down on power.
Is this a common thing? I've never heard of anything Like that. I didn't get a chance to temp it after coming in so I don't know what its temping now. It was in the the 267 range before.
#1296
Tech Initiate
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 31
I talked to guy at the local hobby shop I bought the motor from and claims it is most likely just now breaking all the way in. He said on oval 3 gals probably hasn't been enough to do it but offroad was. This sound legit? Air filter is still clean.
Need a little help.
I've had an alpha .24 and now have a 2013 pipe. I've been running it on the oval and we run about 3 min races. I was pretty sure I had it tuned just right. I've been thru about 3 gal including break in.
The problem came when i converted it back to buggy and ran my first off road last night with it. I made it thru 5 min heats no problem just a tad rich thru the night.
All of the sudden about 8 minutes into the main it started stalling and just terribly rich. Pit guy leaned it a little and it got better for a lap but then back rich again. Leaned a little more and got better and finished the race but so down on power.
Is this a common thing? I've never heard of anything Like that. I didn't get a chance to temp it after coming in so I don't know what its temping now. It was in the the 267 range before.
I've had an alpha .24 and now have a 2013 pipe. I've been running it on the oval and we run about 3 min races. I was pretty sure I had it tuned just right. I've been thru about 3 gal including break in.
The problem came when i converted it back to buggy and ran my first off road last night with it. I made it thru 5 min heats no problem just a tad rich thru the night.
All of the sudden about 8 minutes into the main it started stalling and just terribly rich. Pit guy leaned it a little and it got better for a lap but then back rich again. Leaned a little more and got better and finished the race but so down on power.
Is this a common thing? I've never heard of anything Like that. I didn't get a chance to temp it after coming in so I don't know what its temping now. It was in the the 267 range before.
#1297
The symptoms you describe sound just like an engine dropping it's nuts.. I'd retune it and run it..
#1298
Edit: According to Pitpop it will not work, the flange diameter is different from 3port to 5port.. He would know better then me..
Last edited by ScottyM; 12-13-2011 at 06:06 AM. Reason: incorrect information..
#1299
Tech Initiate
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 31
#1300

On another note, the 7 port p/s is a BEAST
Cody has been running one in his truggy. and I'm going to build another one because it was so good.
#1301
It won't fit. The diameter of the upper flange part of the sleeve is bigger than the 5 port sleeve. If you want to put a 3 port sleeve into your engine, it needs to be a 3 port from the start. I have no idea why they did that, don't kill the messenger.. 
On another note, the 7 port p/s is a BEAST
Cody has been running one in his truggy. and I'm going to build another one because it was so good. 

On another note, the 7 port p/s is a BEAST
Cody has been running one in his truggy. and I'm going to build another one because it was so good. 
#1302
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#1304
my crf JTP worlds edition engine needs a new rear bearing .. i cnt find it in amain .. can anyone tell me if the werks or sirio or any lm bearing will fit this engine ? werks and orion are similar in size 14.2 x 25.3mm but i dont knw the width ..
#1305
They should be 6.3mm. I ordered two TKO ceramics in 25.3x14.2x6.3 for my Discovery engines. I hope to install them Firday afternoon. I'll let ya know if they work.. Bearing sizes should be the same for all the Alpha line of Orion engines.



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