John Fontaine I'm already looking to see if I can find some more cash to buy a few more packs while they are offering such a good deal on those 1.165 to 1.169 packs that are upgraded to 1.17's. The price is unreal on those things. I really beleive these packs will run great. I have been watching this forum for a couple of weeks now and have read nothing but good things. I also saw Randman purchased a pack or two and he was saying how good they ran. Plus you have mentioned how good they ran as have many others. You guys can't all be making this stuff up.