Originally Posted by
Kevin K
Here is the problem.....for 12th scale because of the lesser voltage they now use yes Boost is just fine in that class. But in sedan on our little tracks boost is too much on a majority of our tracks. Yes some people can handle it but the majority of people can’t. If you want to get more people racing and keep racing then some sacrifice is going to have to be made. We can’t all have our boost and use it too. Racing is very complex to start with if you need to make it less complex so it will appeal to a larger group of racers....if not the shrinking pool will keep shrinking.
There are not many tracks that you can properly race mod on at today’s speeds…look at the lap times from 17.5 boosted at IIC to Mod at IIC…I think it was .2 off hot lap. That’s on a larger carpet track with some of the best drivers in the world. There are not large asphalt or carpet tracks on every corner around the US. So the ability it takes to run mod is very hard to learn on small tracks with the speed of the cars today hence this is the reason that stock or spec is so popular around the US. So really the tracks need to get larger or the speed needs to come down....which is going to happen first? This is why there needs to be two sets of rules for the track size. If the track is larger than 100ft you can and should run boost....if the track is smaller than that then no you should not run boost. This is the fundamental issue with the US Vs. the rest of the world. The rest of the world has some really nice large size tracks that are just fine running mod and or boost. When it comes to the US not many racers are lucky enough to have places like this. So their availability to get onto a track that can support mod is limited at best. So they race what they can comfortably race on their size local track and in most cases it stock or spec. So if you want to tell people that they have to move up to mod when they don’t have a track to race mod on then I fail to see the logic behind this. If their local track is large enough then by all means move on to mod but don’t force others to do the same.
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Which is why, when this whole debate started, many of us asked ROAR to leave the pan car classes alone. In their infinite wisdom, they declined to do so. I just don't believe that when all is said and done blinky will keep more new people racing. It will become motor of the month, and battery as well. That is the always the way of untunable "spec" classes.
2. Exactly!!! I'm not the one that listed that moving up to mod as a reason why blinky was the new rule, Steve Pond stated that. Which is why rather than dumbing down the tech, a SLOWER motor would have been the more reasonable choice IMO. Drop 17.5 to 21.5, and there's your new "STOCK" sedan. You can still tailor your ESC to the track and your driving style, but now you're not ridiculously fast anymore. Hell, make it 25.5 like VTA. Another route would've been to go from LIPO to LIFE in the sedan classes and drop the voltage, which would also slow the cars. There were several roads that could've been taken that would have left a little tuning and still made the cars reasonable. A logical progression the way I see it would be to start in VTA, then go to USGT, Then "Stock sedan", Then SuperStock Sedan, then Mod. You know a logical progression that gradually increases the technical expertise required. Just seems to me there may be too many racers that should be running USGT or VTA, that are too proud to enter a class they can handle, so therefore all "Stock" classes should be drug down to their level.
It's this kinda crap that drove me out of TC to begin with.........