these cars have little time on them the 22 has only 2 practice days on it at a indoor clay track it has a set of newer wheels and tires bk bars and taper pins with a extra set of wheels all dyed black. The sc10 factory team has a couple races on it at the same indoor clay track and 1 outdoor race it is clean also. it has the 12mm hex upgrade front and rear will come with a set of wheels. I want to trade both of these for a losi 8ight-e or a rc8e with a brushless setup Preferably tekin but will take a mamba monster set up if the cars nice (dont need the servo or receiver or batts) i also have a Viper Vtx10r I can throw in to sweetin the deal. LOSI OR ASSOCIATED only please and i have 79 feedback on ebay all 100% and on rcuniverse i think i have 7 all 100% can send u the usernames if you PM me.