Hoosier, I concur and essentially that was the point of my original post. I am in this for fun, and life is too short to deal on weekends with people who dont know this is a hobby or people are here to get better. ( or to just chum around with other R/C geeks...) hell thats my main goal for going to tracks, its more fun than actually racing for me at times.

Which is the main single reason I take such issue with those who try to talk down or supress others for ego reasons as it seemed from his posts) Ive had a couple friends (and myself) leave the hobby 4 years ago because they got tired of those kind of people, and dont want to have the same thing happen again.