well i have been using this from zero to 18 positive feedback thus why its all positive i had never been on forums before and yes this was started by bro-inlaw and seeing now that i should of just started my own name but at the time of starting never thought it would be a big deal and come to this so with that being said i will bow out and start a new name and start over, i love using this forum and have tried using others since begining on this one and this is the only one that i can navigate easily and able to figure out, im not that vursed in computers, oh and i sent out one of my crawler chassis to that guy just because i had worked so hard to get to where i am now or was and wanted to keep the positive going, but dont matter now will just start over, got some things i need to buy so will get new one created and get to it. thanks for everyones imput and sorry to all that this has bothered