The problem with them is that dont compress in a linear fashion from spring to spring. I noticed a +/- 2lb variance between em which is HUGE. For bashing Im sure it doesn't matter as much, but for racing its unacceptable. Proper matched single rate springs,correct oil weight and pistons are still the best way to go, bashing or racing. Most people dont understand though how to properly set up all 3 to your driving style and terrain.