Thanks guys, getting a good vibe so far. Why LRP? They make the smoothest escs period. Had very bad luck with tekin but I've read 1900kv for 8th buggy is where its at. And I've read good things on the motors from tekin but I will never run their speedos. Just personal preference. If lrp made a lower kv motor I'd get that too but the t8 will do. Ok so 4s it is. What C rating do you guys suggest? Was looking at some protek packs at 50c.