So yes or no to the hotwire? Gregg, I have been a super saver member as well. Im a newbie to RC8Be, I have owned traxxas prior. However, I haven't really ever seen any other $20 off of order of $50 it's usually like $10 0ff $100. The hotwire is $31.95 so if I can think of $20 of other stuff I can use it's pretty much free. Problem is I can't think of $20 worth of stuff. Can you?