Yeah, I was looking over at the RX8 thread and even Ty at tekin posted his wires are not soldered the way the others guys have said in here. His post is at http://www.rctech.net/forum/6493769-post5013.html Blade mentioned back in May his problem was due to wires that were too short. And Ty's conflicting post at http://www.rctech.net/forum/7354781-post7614.html