Thanks Roy, I'm racing VTA so to meet minimum I have to add weight no matter what. I'll see where I'm at once I get car and gear all together.

I have a tough question for any of you. Currently there are a couple of good advertisements for E4 cars or goods in rctech. Especially the one for seller "Weezy". The other Is "cablecrawler" but I don't know if he has picks posted yet. I'm in the market for a second E4. If one of you experienced guys can take a look at the ad and tell me what you think of items and price...I'd appreciate it.

Here's the link to Weezy's ad: http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...ic-onroad.html