Damn Frank! That's soft as hell. I pretty much always run Black up front with Grey in the rear. Not even on the buggy do I use Red often. I have on occasion used the Red springs up front on the buggy for a tight indoor clay track with basically no jumps. I don't see how you're running those springs on the truggy. That's 3 steps down from the stock Black. Green I can see but Red? I won't knock it because I haven't tried it but that just seems too soft.