i run a crc and a x ray link ll, and it really took alot of other parts to dial my link in,like a hotbodies center shock, ae springs all the way around,team tamales parts and a crc rear axel....although i will say its a good car it is basically a classy version of ae12r5.1..as for my crcxl well its just plain out fast and reliable,holds a setup real well and i can keep up with the fast guys...hopefully x ray gets a few things together with the link because i hate having to order parts from three other companies to keep one car going....just my opinion though...i mean i run a tcx and use a lot of tamiya parts...go figure...