let's sell it today , call above number mentioned, i'm feeling like getting out of it today, tomorrow i'll probably change my mind, keep in mind, this thing is hardly used, I've had two offers now for 180 shipped, but no one to commit, call me and commit and it's yours, ................hey Fas1 I'm running eighth scale buggies at mine and another buddies big track here in town, get a hold of me, you'll love them. ones tight the other is longer.