I agree that the best off road RTR package is either the losi 2.0 buggy or truggy. For racing or bashing you won't get better. The point I was trying to make is that his OP asked for the fastest RTR nitro off road package and that would be Traxxas Jato, or Schumacher Menace. So I guess we have gone away from fastest to most practical. I would not recommend traxxas or Schumacher to anyone over the Losi 2.0 but that wasn't the question. The question was fastest and that's why I was wondering how he ended up with a losi truggy. Not that it's a bad choice at all.