to late now... here is a prime example of some guys get the joke and others dont.. this is how arguments start in other threads... if we where at the track i would have known that you where joking but just words on a page no one knows what the true expresions are... food for thought when you type on a public forum... no who is going to pick the axial??? someone will... i hope i got most of the choices you gentlemen wanted this time around... jeremy