fatam I agree...whats sad is people complaine about not having a local indoor track because newberrys closed, but we also lost another great indoor AND outdoor track in waterloo because people would NEVER travel...it takes more then the "locals" to keep a track going!! all I have to say is Chucks facility would put some of the nicest tracks to shame and its sad that hes not receiving more support at least on this thread I have no clue what his pm's consist of....