Ray.....And that was with out any Belt tricks(that I know of) and or the black belt...just think if we had that stuff then...lol. Yeah that was a great race Mark's car was Silly fast and would have been TQ I bet if his wheel had stayed on. That just goes to say that the Nats are going to an awesome race and will be one of the best STOCK races to date.....man is that class stacked with fast guys.....get a top 20 at that race and you are really fast for sure.