Originally Posted by
A-Ko
In reading some of the posts. The thought that came to my mind is Touring Car is dying. I remember 15 years ago when carpet oval was big and factory drivers were racing stock, how can a privateer limited budget driver as me, compete against a driver who gets new tires, batteries, motors, escs, etc... on a weekly/monthly basis. When sedans came into the picture, the choice was easy. No factory drivers got into the primitive sedan class then and I could afford to run it on a limited budget.
Today SC Truck has come on strong. Again it is another primitive class that factory drivers, might not readily stoop to as of yet. When they do, their money and budgets could effect the structure and interest. Do I hate or despise factory drivers, not really, they really should be in their own classes competing against like drivers.
Today I participated in the ALs Hobbyshop race as 2nd part of the Assault series. I grabbed my 2wd mini for laughs (I needed tires) and chose to race stock. I never raced that surface with pretty high traction, my car was ok just needed more fine tuning (more than 2 hours). I have always ran stock but seems like a race like this today, it is a waste of time. Sure I can probably eventually beat the people like me but still would be 2 laps off the factory TQ. What is the solution, become a factory guy where I can afford expensive new cars, batteries, ESCs or find another class where it is more fair and balanced.
I have looked at USVT and keep getting told about USGT. I have raced the Tamiya Series for 15 years and find that the bigger classes are simpler classes. Mini is king. Why? It is cheap and simple. GT3 is another silvercan sedan class that is pretty big and simple. GT2 is a 17.5 spec Ballistic class (and motors of that type) fairly popular but with stricter rules and with BL insanity has fallen off. Next year they are going with 1 spec ESC/17.5 for GT2. GT1 has been 13.5 and will probably be 17.5 next year, it is dead. It seems the classes that change less are the ones people like.
I do see issues with opening the USGT class to unlimited ESCs, 21.5 motor and open ended tires, wheels and inserts. I have not jumped onto USVT or USGT mainly because they did not seem stable to me and they still don't. With Tamiya There are 2 tires to choose from one good for carpet, the other for pavement. I would think having it simplified like that would be healthy. Checking voltage, pre-tech another healthy move. I see the proposed rules favoring those who can afford and like to spend money. Don't get me wrong I will spend money if I really need to, even have a tekin RS + laptop. Yet I would rather run a class that does not take alot of work where I can just grab my car and go wih limited options KNOWING that I can be competitive anywhere I go. Many of my friends share this thought due to work, home ownership and families effecting time to totally prepare for a race.
If you want USGT to succeed you need to ask those who run it if they like the proposed rules then approach area tracks to get them on board. What is the point of having USGT with 1, 2 or 3 different rules depending on the track you go. Again another reason why GT3, Mini and Slash are popular and I run all 3.
Thanks for the reading, I will go back to watching. . .
Hi A-Ko...
I'm definitely no going to scoff at what you wrote. You mentioned many things that are plaguing TC racing across the country. I have not run in the Asphalt Assault because I have other things like family to do things with in the summer time too.
But a couple of things stood out to me in your post:
"Sure I can probably eventually beat the people like me but still would be 2 laps off the factory TQ. What is the solution, become a factory guy where I can afford expensive new cars, batteries, ESCs or find another class where it is more fair and balanced."
"Don't get me wrong I will spend money if I really need to, even have a tekin RS + laptop. Yet I would rather run a class that does not take alot of work where I can just grab my car and go wih limited options KNOWING that I can be competitive anywhere I go."
Lets start with the top comment. I am a guy who deals with some of the restrictions you mention. I have a family that I put ahead of RC racing (and everything else). However I DO want to be somewhat competitive, if not good. I do this by working at it as much as I can. There are guys who have way more time and money than I do. I just except that and do my best...and have fun doing it. Don't get discouraged by the factory guys. Yeah I know when you are getting blown by, you wonder whats the point. Trust me I would have raced years ago if I didn't have that same feeling at one point. I found the right place to race and enjoy it...and NO I'm not the best...or a factory driver. But use the "fast" guys as a resource. If you do you will get better if that is what you really want.
Your second statement tells me that something like the Mini class is perfect for you. Inexpensive and easy to have fun with. The stock class you saw last weekend was Super Stock...you bet you'll see some fast guys running that. That class takes work to be fast at (not just money). That is not a set it and for get it class...no if ands or buts about that. However we have a good group of Mini racers that race at The Track. You should come out this fall and race (if you haven't or don't already). We also will have a GT class too, as well as USVTA and an open stock class. I think the GT class will be fun. I'm sure the real fast guys will stay in the open stock class, so you will have a chance to compete.
I guess I don't like to see guys who feel like racing is too much so why bother