well just to let you all know i went with the os speed, with the 2050. a guy i know brought it in to the lhs as i was prickin out motors. i got it the speed with half a gal on it the pipe in a losi buggy with starter box bls 352 servo and 8711 servo lipo rx pack ans voltage cut off back up vzb that needs piston ans sleve and three sets of tires for 600 bucks. now all i have to do i sell one of my truggys to make up for some of my spendings