BTW with the exception of One time in all my RC endeavors did one of those setup sheets work for me.. I simply do not trust em.. The Companies do not really put out the the detailed info racers need there are secrets well not really secrets just things they dont want us to know about..cause they figure we wont understand or get it anyways.. many times the stuff the pros do is so different than what you read in car action or others.. how to setups or find setup is the Black Art of RC Racing unless you can figure it out for yourself or someone tells you... you are Stuck in the Back... Do you really think or Believe driving talent separates us all that much it dont after a certain point we are all as good of drivers as we will ever be.. The rest is Setup knowledge.. I have found this out the Hard way more than once in my racing endeavors. There are some awesome drivers in the pros just pure talent 20 or so drivers.. however there are fewer now than one would think many of the guys are helped along or have been helped by someone who knows what to do when and how to win!! I have been Sponsored before trust me when I tell you it is not a good deal the Companies still have favorites that they help along in the racing and other guys that just take up a spot in the pits.. Oh dont worry I know which one I am..