if you wanna good drift race, we should get an ice race started. I have a pond at my house, that is easily75% larger than the indoor track at marcca, the only problem is we would have to do if befor the ice melt, but right now theres a good 17 inches of ice, and would have to hand count laps, but i've done it with my f-1, and you get about 10 laps on it. its pretty sweet, but i dunno how sedans would do. Maybe we could get an ice racing event started????