True but some of us are trying to rekindle that flame, so the 13.5 idea has come about and the price to run 2wd buggy was lowerd as well. So the spousal leash shouldn't be so bad...... I even have my neighbors buggy to get in on this action, until my new buggy shows up....And i think any class can feel the pain of it getting weak time to time. Ive come down almost every Wednesday night this month and Tom Carr would be the only 4wd buggy that shows up....