Originally Posted by
jiml
Yes, but you got into the hobby to go racing. You understand the concepts of practicing your line and fine adjustments to go faster. And yes there are still people like you coming into the hobby, and thank goodness for that. The problem is there aren't enough.
There are people out there who don't care about getting better. They just want to come out and have a good time. A cheap car with a cheap motor and battery is all they want, and if they can keep up with their friends, they're happy. But if they come into a track and see people spending tons of money on the slowest class, they will walk right back out.
We, as racers, have completely ignored this segment of the hobby, and as a result we have no growth.
yea, thats why we go to a RACE TRACK to run our cars, cause we want to RACE.
those that don't car about getting better and are there just to have fun and kill time, should be getting there stuff used and run novice or VTA or whatever the FUN class is at your track.
We as racers have not ignored anything. Its those that manufactor RC stuff that have, thats why Traxxas is probably the number one manufactor, they cater to the basher, and thats where the money is. look at all the low cost OFF ROAD KITS now. everyone is following Traxxas lead, when Traxxas goes after the ON ROAD basher market, it will be the same. but right now, 95% of on roaders RACE and not Bash. at least I think so maybe.
Originally Posted by
gameover
this is the ONLY issue, stock & super stock (and to a lesser degree mod) have radically increased speed over the last 2 years due to ESC & LiPo. nobody wants to acknowledge it, but i have 2 years of smashed lap records that prove it. We race weekly and often have races where EVERY touring car class lap record is broken (except silver can classes, which in some cases have 5+ year old records). We run a different track layout each week and keep records for each layout. In some cases 10.5t is faster than old 5 cell mod was and current 17.5t is faster than old 19t brushed.
Imagine being a better than average driver in 540 silver can class and making your next step to stock at the same level as 8.5t super stock speeds of 2 years ago? That is what people are doing today and for some reason it is accepted.
this is also why I say, 17.5 isn't the "stock" class anymore and needs a name change. or "they" need to come up with new specs for stock.