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Originally Posted by glarepro View Post
If I am not mistaken, God created the Shabot (the Sabath) for man, not the other way around. You can do with the Sabath what you want. It was created by God for man so that he may have a day to rest. If you chose not to rest on the Seventh day as God did when he created the Universe then thats up to you. You have not sinned in God's eyes, but I will say this...
Hello Ken,

Nowhere in the Torah is there anything saying that G-d created Shabat for man, and that therefore you can do what you please on that day, etc. The Torah, where we find G-d's teaching, instructions, advice, commandments, etc., says where clearly the following:

"Remember the Shabat (day of rest) to sanctify it. For six days you will work, and complete all of your work. But on the seventh day, a day of "shabat"(rest) dedicated to YHVH your G-d; you will not do any sort of work- not you, nor your son, your daughter, your male servant, female servant, your animals, or convert within your gates...for in six days YHVH your G-d created the heavens and the earth, the seasand all that is in them, but He rested on the seventh day. For this reason has YHVH your G-d blessed the day of rest, and made it holy. (Exodus 20:4)

"Carefuly safeguard Shabat (the day of rest) to keep it holy, as YHVH your G-d has commanded you..." (Deut. 5:12)

There's many more verses we can look at, but these should be enough for now. From we see that the day of rest was not made for man. It was created and set aside by G-d himself, as He took this day to rest after working on creating everything during the six days of creation. He purposely created and worked during the six days, and chose to stop work, and make the seventh day, a day of rest from work/creation. The seventh day, the day of shabat (rest), and the reason and purpose behind it, was created by G-d, for himself, and this leads to the next point...

as part of the covenant with the Jewish people, G-d then commands the Jewish people to also keep G-d's custom of resting on the 7th day, as the above verses state. He asks that the Jewish people remember and safeguard the holiness and sanctity of the Shabat, the 7th day, the day of rest, and that we are not to do any kind of work on the day of rest, nor allow any else under our care like our children, servants, maidservents, animals, etc., to do any type of work under our watch, to ensure the 7th day is a day of disconnect from the work activities of the 6 days of work. Why? The verses re-iterate that we are to do so because G-d rested and ceased all manner of work after the six days, and rested on the seventh, and we are to do the same...again, it's for G-d's honor, and a day dedicated to remember Him and all wonders and beauty of all His creation, and take time to appreciate His love and kindness through this gift, the gift of creation, of we are a part of.
So according to G-d's words, It has nothing to do with "man", nor is it a day we can do what we "please". We have 6 days to work and complete all our work, dreams, plans, etc., but the 7th day, we are to stop, and focus on G-d and his kindness, and take the day off to put our work/ambitions, desires, and plans asside, and be grateful to G-d for all the blessings we have, and that's why the day is a holiday...it's sacred, set appart, different, from the rest of the days...

You've also stated that if someone chooses to not obey G-d's command, ignore His teaching, and instead do what he wants, that such a person is not sinning...

sorry my friend...it is a sin. A sin is concious act contrary to G-d's law or teaching. G-d is forgiving, for those who unwittingly or unknowingly are not keeping his laws or teachings, and very, very patient with those who rebel against His laws or commandments, but this doesn't mean He will not correct or let things go. As any good Father who love their children, He will correct and discipline, and sometime this can hurt, but its for our own good.

Some sins/transgressions are require harsher punishments than others, depending of the level of transgression, and which commandment was violated, etc.

The Shabat, is one of the holiest commandments we have, and it is a day blessed by G-d, and sanctified by Him as a day for rest from all work day labor and activities, as explained. The blessings of resting on the 7th day are many, spiritually and materially, for our souls and body, since its a day such a high degree of holiness...however, the punishment handed out to those who willfully choose to not reverence and sanctify this most holy of days, and insted to what is pleasing in their own eyes, is severe...

Let's see what the TOrah says about such an arrogant attitude; In Numbers Chapter 15, the Torah tells us about someone who thought he could do what he pleased on the 7th day,

"While the Israelites were in the desert, they discovered a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath. The ones who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses, Aaron and the entire community. Since it was not specified what must be done to him, they placed him under guard. And G-d said to Moses, 'That man must die. Let the entire community pelt him with stones outside the camp.' The entire community took him outside the camp, and they pelted him to death with stones. It was done as God had commanded Moses...You will then not stray after your heart and eyes, which [in the past] have led you to immorality. You will thus remember and keep all My commandments, and be holy to your God. I am God your Lord, who brought you out of Egypt to be your God. I am God your Lord "(Numbers 15:32-41)

Not a pretty end for the one who decided to disrespect G-d and disobey, by doing what he wanted to do...this individual had no respect for G-d or the holiday of rest, and chose to go out and gather/carry wood, which is a type of labor done during the 6 days of the week, to build, as carpenters, construction, loggers, etc., and we are not to do these type of labors on the holy dayy of rest. He had plenty of time during the week to log, but instead went ahead with his own ideas...which cost him his life, sadly.

When G-d says something is holy and sacred...man, He means business. It's not wise to denigrate or demean G-d's instructions concerning the 7th day.

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