Originally Posted by
redbones
Only to get your arse handed to on a silver platter with guys that have "special" one in a hundred motors. That's enough to turn away new racers. In the TA class we race, there was some drama about some bunch of guys that were untouchable. Something is wrong when you get lapped in a silver can race when both drivers don't crash. If race organizers are really serious about keeping everything on a level playing field in silver/black can race, they need to dyno all the motors raced. If they are not willing to do so, they have no say in what should be run.
imo, RTRs are not a good way to get into RC.
I don't mind at all deing beaten by anyone or everyone. The more so if they have an unfair advantage (which I think a "special" silvercan is - it has been discussed here at length). It is skill I value, not the technology anyone can buy given endless money.
Originally Posted by
cannon
The original posting was regarding using BL systems to race Minis. Now after alkl your posts you say you dont race Minis?
You are so far out of date with information. The eastern states (NSW, QLD, VIC, SA, and ACT) have all adopted the brushless system for Mini racing. There was no silver can racing of Mini before ... only black can. Unfortunately for WA they are running a long way behind the other states. You were even later introducing lipos for race meets
As for increasing numbers ... the number of Mini racers increased dramatically straight after the BL system was introduced and is still increasing. Look at the Mini 50 event in Victoria .. 50 BL system Minis came together for one event .. you ont see that many TC cars racing in a silver can event . Why? Because of the inequality of the motors etc etc.
As I said before .. if you want to hack around then the silver can is fine for your driveway. But for equal racing ... there is only one solution .. brushless
I think I said a few times I don't race minis in varioues threads including this one. it appears your infromation is not up to date. Read the posts, man, that's what they're here for.
As for my information, I admitted already it may be out of date as I am not very keen on mini racing, but even as of last week it was not clear whether or not brushless minis will be allowed at the upcoming event in Bunbury which is organised jointly by the people fron Sydney and Bunbury, but run by the east coast rules, so there you go. Again, we'll see.
As for increasing numbers, read my post above. You don't offer any reason why the numbers increased, just information about the
timing of the increase in relation with what
you are looking at. I argue that event (and other events before it, like the 1000 laps event they had in Mildura (memory?) and others before that, which I have to say sound very attractive, came at or just after the height of our economic boom, when our dollar was about equal to the american dollar and the highest currency against it except for the euro). That meant a mini kit from Tamiya could be had for a record low price, probably in the low 100 dollars shipped to Oz from HK or similar (RTR kits also perhaps under 300AU$ all up). Take a step back and look at the larger picture and you'll see clearer. To be more clear, I don't think anyone would spend any money on this hobby if they didn't have that money in the first place, no matter how even the playing field. These conditions are replicated somewhat right now with a very strong exchange rate against a slower economy though, so it will be interesting to see if more people keep coming to the mini class or numebrs start declining.
Another factor is that you might have a number of people dragging their minis out of retirement like I did with my old M02 car I left alone about 12 years ago. So you see, it's not as simple as saying "x many people showed up for the mini class, so the class is growing because we introduced brushless".
I suggest we wait and see.