i appreciate the help from you all..i am quite frustrated with the car...i am not disappointed in the cars performance when set up correctly...i have set the rear very soft but i guess softer could not hurt at all...i do not know what to do at this point...i guess the rc community and my other counterpart at my local track will figure this out and when we do look out xray, bmi, and crc cars...magenta rears are currently being tested...i wonder what the pros are doing about the different weight issues with the cars...i wonder if they had the same problems with it spinning out...