I am going Speedmerchant as its been fast at stockton.The rugrat is equally as fast but I am going the tbarless route.You get that car from Doug.There was 3 heats of 12th scale last night.Imagine went from 3-5 cars in one heat 2 3 heats.Pretty good.I am trying to get others to race 12 stock but pride seems to be getting in the way of some to even try it.We'll see I guess.