I am very familiar with ROAR that's not the point. Where are these specific rules set forth for club racing by RCHR telling us 17t BL and soft packs are not permitted for club acing? I want my bud to be able to run what he has with no worries and I don't want to have to spend big bucks on a hardcase as a casual racer. Other then that I don't see what the problem is. We all agree on just about everything else like the body, wheels, batts, etc