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Old 02-03-2009, 12:40 PM
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jdeadman
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Originally Posted by Trips
Don't thank me yet... I only asked a question so far... this should help...

First, with the ProStrut front end on my GenX I run the 045 springs, the 050's would probably be better on a low grip track, but for carpet I think the 045 would be the way to go. The 050's are the stock spring on the ProStrut front end, so switching to 045 should get you some more steering.

Second, be sure you don't have any preload on the front spring. It's easy to screw the kingpin too far into the steering block and compress the front spring when you put the eclip on. You'll want to loosen the brass setscrew, get the kingpin back into the ball (my allen wrench is real short, so I have to lift the kingpin out of the ball to get to the setscrew) and with the kingpin in the ball hod the car upside down, slip the spring onto the kingpin, then holding thh steering block against the lower ball, adjust the length of the kingpin so that the e-clip groove is JUST clear of the end of the spring. Lock the setscrew back down, and install the eclip. There should be no slop, but the least little pressure on the bottom of the kingpin should start the spring compressing. When the car is sitting on its wheels, you should see a slight gap between the steering block and the top of the ball in the lower arm. If the car's own weight doesn't have a little compression gap there, the kingpin is set too short. It can be a fiddly process, sometimes it'll take me almost an hour to get the kingpin lengths set just right.

Make sure the balls in the lower arms are installed with the little shoulder facing UP... if they're not, the front end won't be working right.

One other thing... there shouldn't be any friction at the upper arm... no binding at the hingepin, and the upper pivot ball mustn't be too tight. With no spring, if you push up on the kingpin, the upper arm and steering block should fall back down of their own weight. If they stay up, find the friction and get rid of it. Some of the CRC upper arms are tight on the hingepin out of the mold. When the upper arm is off the car, I put a hingepin in it. If the hingepin won't fall out of the arm just of its own weight, I open the holes in the arm up with an .080 drill bit on low speed. Or an .080 reamer if you can get one. If the arm is free on the hingepin but still binds on the car, you might need to give the teflon shims a swipe or two on some fine sandpaper, like 600 grit. They usually break in after a few runs, but they can be a little tight when you first build the front end.

Friction and preload in the front end can make the car steer like you're running two or three spring rates too heavy, so whatever time and effort it takes to get the front end friction free is well spent.
That is exactly why I love this board. Yes I think I do have preload in the front which I will remedy quicly. I will also be stopping by the hobby shop this week tp pick up some servo tape and now front springs. Thanks again.

We shoud really sticky these really good tips.

Originally Posted by theisgroup
alot of the time this happens because you are driving the car too hard or applying too much steering input. basically you have soo much steering at the beginning of the race, that you overheat the rear tires. then they don't have the tracktion that they did at the beginning of the race. going to a harder front will help with the rear fading at the end of the race. problem is that you will loose steering and the car will seam to push. correct the push with setup and not tire choice.

You may have just hit that one perectly I do not turn down my Dual rate at all. Neing new I wanted the most steering possible. it is no wonder it get's worse during the race. I think I will be going really early on Sunday to test these new settings.


Also is there some really good tips of things I can do at the track to continue to get "better" other than practice practice practice. but I am thinking of small changes and what I should see on the track. Just to see if I'm going the right direction.

Thanks again
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