You know we have to keep in mind we are talking about toy trucks here, Winter boredom seems to bring the worst out in everyone, so please keep that in perspective... IMO nothing in this hobby is finite and buying used allows anyone the chance to test many different trucks and not break the bank, Ebay and forums can be a goldmine for finding affordable quality used RC gear... So get the Hellfire and see what you think, many of here have had the opportunity to run the truck, so there's no reason why you shouldn't try it for yourself... I appologize for coming across as such a dick, it originally was not my intention..Either way with used prices being so low there's nothing really to lose no matter what you choose, as well the used market is very good and chances are you will have no issue selling the truck for what you paid.... so its a win win either way, and definitely not a subject worth truly arguing over... A little tongue and cheek banter is to be expected on the forums, however its nothing worth getting upset over...... Have fun with your choices and best of luck. I have no ill feelings whatsoever and I post in good humor and intend no true insult or have any hostile intentions.... Mostly a little fun and nothing more and I appologize if my posts come across as more then they were intended to be ! Anyways Good Day !