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Old 01-13-2009 | 02:02 AM
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pdmustgt
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Originally Posted by Maximo
I used to think that way too...at one time I thought the Savages were the toughest RC ever.... However I gotta say that i couldnt have been further from the truth.... Savages breakdown much more then a Truggy does, me and my group have been running both Savages and Truggies and after 2 seasons and over 100 gallons of fuel combined we now realize how much stronger and more reliable the Truggies are....We always find we are wrenching on the Savages, there is always something wrong... spur gear, 2 speed, outdrives, diff's, dogbones etc...no matter what the Savages are always breaking and needing parts.... The Savage drivetrain is very weak, we are constantly blowing diffs and /3 speeds when running our modded Picco 28's...The Mugen however has no issues handling a modified Picco 28, I have 30 gallons on my original set of diffs..........

Anyways to make a long story short, people rarely bash with a race grade Truggy because 99% of people who buy Mugen's are racers, 99% of bashers wrongly feel HPI is the best company for bashing and they are almost always unwilling to try anything else...so as a rule racers buy racer gear, and bashers stick to the low end RTR gear...... However I promise you that if you were take a Savage and a MBX5T for a whole season of bashing like I did you would see as clear as day the Truggy is far more durable and reliable, you will spend way more money keeping your Savage running then you will spend keeping the Mugen running... as well you will spend way more money on needed hoppups for the Savage that the Mugen will not need.... Savage's aren't all what they are cracked up to be, IMO they are very expensive and unreliable, they require a constant stream of upgrades, and their drietrains are terrible....

Sorry but I disagree bashing vs racing. Racing is controlled and prepped track with lots of waiting to run 2 or 3 heats with 10 to 20 min mains. Bashing in most cases rough areas jumping it with no landing ramps, balls to wall. With some of the extreme things I've done to my Savage or what you seen on the net no truggy or buggy will live through that. Theres some massive jumps I seen break your little mugen in 2 (bowed chassis)I have seen this before but never faze the Savage or M/T. Bashing dump more fuel in and keep going. I've used more fuel bashing in 1 day than 1 month of racing. So you tell me again which is harder on a r/c vehicle.

Alot of claim they broke this and that then go online say I broke it. But never tell anyone the truth on HOW they broke the part. I never have broke a control arm on my Hellfire bent front inner pins never broke any control arms. Never blew diffs out either. Most diff are blown out when you struck on the pipe. 1 side of the tires are on the ground the other side in the air you sit there gunning the hell out of it I wonder why you blow diffs out UMMMMM. I never have blown the gears up inside the diff because I know when to stop. I don't have any problems with the 2 or 3 speed with the Savage they was bulletproof as long as you loc-ite the screw sets
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