I'll let Brian know.... I've got too many of them. 4 GTB's is enough. If Novak does not help you out, I'll put LRP or Orion units in all of my cars.. I've talked many people into buying the GTB's... Does Novak think that Local CRCRC fast guys do not influence other racers and beginners as to what they should buy if they want the best??? I still remember Tyree Phillips giving me a new speedo at Cleveland when I was a kid (Mine let the smoke out)... That was above and beyond. That's why I always supported Novak.