Ok folks I am currently running in stock with the gtb/velocity 17.5 from novak. I am looking @ purchasing another novak system for my 2wd stock car and am seriously considering the havoc combo. I know it isnt out yet but the 8.5t combo is. Has anyone done a comparison between the 8.5 gtb/velociti and the 8.5 havoc combo? The price of the havoc is awesome but not really much point if the gtb/velociti is faster.....Your thoughts please