also if you are looking for lipos we have the 3800 35c and 5200s at 35c
now the 5200s are the fullthrottle lipos that meet all ROAR spects
and they are about the same size as the 3800s
x-man has tested these packs and sayed they were top on his list for liops
check the web site out on low low price on cells and lipos