Jason, thanks for the help last week. I got the package in time to get it back together to be able to run last saturday. The guys riunning the Associate 12r5 are fast. I was able to get a 3rd seat on the podium but still I can not hit the 33 lap mark. I am just1 or 2 seconds away from it. I have done it once with the 12l4 but not this DB12R5. My lap times are getting more consistent and .5 a second faster overall, but I am not giving up on the DB12R5. Again Thanks for the help.