Thanks guys, I was really thinking about the mp9 BUT, the price thing is a real issue. now I had a losi 8ight and didnt like it at all? but I was told its not a hammer down buggy so off it went, the I picked up a mbx5r pro and I liked it a lot better. So I am leaning towards a mbx6 or x-ray 808 but like you guys suggested try to drive one? But I hear the new losi is a lot different buggy than the first one?