Originally Posted by
Maximo
I am only looking to debate this, I am not looking to argue........if having me ask questions pisses you off you in any way I will stop..... I was under the impresion that the Picco was the highest powered .12 ( based off dyno results)....so seeing you say the RB has much higher peak #'s has me curious..the Picco already made 1.13 HP on the X-Dyno how much stronger can the RB be ? its really a shame you dont have a X-Dyno so your dyno numbers could be compared to other motors tested on the X..for some reason your dyno reads much higher then the X even tho you use the same software
I have no problem with questions, and very rarely do I get pissed off.
The RB did make more HP when compared to the Red Dot on my dyno. (The RB has a little less torque). It shows on the track too. The Picco makes gobs of power immediately, and then goes flat on a long straight, although the 2617 pipe does help with top end on the Picco a little. The RB is a little smoother than the Picco, and will pass it down the straight. Even with the tallest gearing on the Picco.
If I remember correctly I got about 1.14 hp with torque in the 37-38 OzIn with the Red Dot. I got about 1.25hp with the R3 with about 36 OzIn of torque. The RB made it’s peaks higher in the rpm range. Somewhere around 40K with the RB, and a few thousand less with the Red Dot.
Have you tried the R3 yet.
I can assure you that there is more to making a great race engine than peak torque, or HP #’s on a dyno. I can make dyno monster engines that make insane power and are still driveable, but fuel mileage goes wayside. I strive to make my modified engines the best combination of power, reliability, good runtime, easy to tune, and all with a good powerband.
Runtime is critical in On Road Racing. It is difficult to finish a 5 minute qualifier with a lot of the fast engines today. The Red Dot gets a little better fuel mileage than the R3, but both will make 5 minutes OK. If you get the tune spot on.
Although I do offer those 4 minute engines to customers who do not care about runtime.
