I had both mo3 and m04 and guess what I still have.?An m03. I just like the mini tires and fwd. Having the m04 is like having a wannabe touring car. Defeats the purpose of what the class calls mini. I expect mini tires/rims and fwd in a MINI class. So, there was more m03 at the Aliso V. track / Was it m03 or m03l ? I like the way the m03 handles. It's a fun class. It will be more fun if we only allow fwd not mix the m03 and m04. In our local track it didnt matter last sat race. An m03 won over an m04,ta04 and ff01[they were all placed together]. Tight race and pole spot was swapped positions all 5 minutes. You can see the ta04 and m04l was better in the straights but the m03 ate them in the corners.Always the most exciting race of the day if done right.