just look at how mod has gone down hill ever since the 10 turn rule was taken back their are a handfull of drivers in the states that can hold on to a full blowen mod touring car and their a re a frew others that try .. over seas the tracks are alot bigger and if you have noticed they went to five cells whats that saying ... the track for the last dhi cut race was one of the biggest tracks i have ever seen and with five cell brushless they were doig 16 sec laps. if they were on foam it probally would of been higt 11 sec laps thats way to fasst for me