maximo, i understand your points completley, but we are talking about .28s, the displacement alone could change the graphs on theose pulls. i was just thinking, that if you wanted to compare a ninja .28 and a GO .28 why show a GO .25 VS a ninja .28 i was really anticipating you posting the results of those two not a .25 GO and Ninja .28 thats what i was refering to when i quoted your first statment.