Hi Adrian, mate, apart from the first paragrapth, quite a negative post! A couple of the guys at our club helped to develop the G series of Corally 12th cars a little while back so I would not consider them 'idiots just stumbling along in the hobby'! As for 'get used it to', I don't have to 'get used to it'. I'm perfectly happy with my (many) brushed motors at the moment thanks very much! And just to give you a little head's up, one of the top guys in the UK was running a 17turn motor with the brushless guys in last year's modified National series here in the UK and he held his own no problem at all! So it goes to show, it's not all 'same old BS' at all mate! Just sharing my thought's mate....