Yea, I was suprised my XXX-S outdoor setup worked great on the rug. The setup I've been running is basically the MF one on the Losi site. And BTW, I tried my old Pits from last season and the new Pit D24Rs, both of which worked well, although in mod they seemed to go off a bit towards the end... but then again it was probably my driving that went off... heh.